Does McLaren Really Have Too Many Models?

One of the better known Car Influencers, Doug DeMuro, recently did a video titled “McLaren Has Too Many Special Cars”.  A number of people have sent me the video and asked me if I he has a point.  To be able to properly answer that question, I had to sit down and actually watch the video, all 14 minutes and 20 seconds.  It’s basically a well tossed fact-salad spewed back at the viewer.  Before getting to the question on if he actually has a point, I thought it first might be worth going back and looking at the actual facts and comparing what McLaren has done vs. its closest competitive set since McLaren first started delivering cars to customers in 2011.  To keep things simple, I will only include road cars and not consider convertible/spider versions as separate models. 

McLaren

Given we have owned quite a few McLarens in the past decade, I am quite familiar with their portfolio and a bit of the background on its evolution.

  • Sport Series (Base): 570S, 570GT
  • Sport Series Specials: 600 LT, 620R
  • Grand Tourer: GT
  • Super Series: 12C, 650S, 720S
  • Super Series Specials: 675LT, 765LT, MSO HS
  • Ultimate Series/Limited Edition: P1, Senna, Elva
  • Special Commission: Speedtail, Sabre

Which amounts to a total of 16 models.  Of the 16 McLaren models, 2 started off as bespoke special projects which were requested by customers, 6 are base models that any customer could order, one Special Series Car (600LT) did not have a preset production cap. and the remaining 7 are limited edition models which were normally offered only to McLaren’s best customers.  Of the limited edition Specials, the production numbers are 675LT – 1000, 765LT – 765, MSO HS – 25, 620R – 350 and for the Ultimate Series P1 – 375, Senna – 500, Elva -149.  The total of all these limited production run cars is: 3,164.  On the Special Commissions, there are 106 Speedtails and 15 Sabres.

Ferrari

In the past decade Ferrari has vastly increased the size of its portfolio.  In terms of the part that competes most directly with McLaren, the V8 range (I am including the front engine V8s as they compete for the same buyer as the 570 Series McLarens) and Limited Edition Cars, Ferrari has sold the following:

  • Mid Engine V8: 458, 488, F8
  • Mid Engine V8 Special Series: 458 Speciale, 488 Pista
  • Front Engine V8: California 30, Portofino, Roma
  • Limited Edition: La Ferrari, Monza SP1, Monza SP2
  • Special Commission: F60 America, J50, Sergio

For a total of 14 models.  Outside of the base models, Ferrari has officially produced a total of 710 LaFerraris, 499 Monzas, and 3,499 Speciales, and 3,500 Pistas for an official total of 8,208 cars.  Of the Ferrari Special Commision Cars, 10 F60 Americas, 10 J50s, and 6 Sergios were produced.

Aston Martin

For Aston the relevant models would be:

  • Front Engine Sports: V8 Vantage S, V12 Vantage S
  • Front Engine Sport Special Series: Vantage N430, Vantage GT12, Vantage AMR
  • Front Engine GT: DB11 V12, DB11 V8, DB11 AMR
  • Limited Edition: Valkyrie, V12 Speedster
  • Specials: V12 Zagato, DBS Volante Dragon 88, DBS GT Zagato, Lagonda Taraf, Vanquish Zagato Shooting Brake

For a total of 15 models.  I haven’t added up the production number for each of the Aston Martins as a rough estimate would put it in line with McLarens.  I am also ignoring the Continuation Series cars as I don’t believe they are particularly relevant to the discussion.  The “paint job specials” such as the DBS Concorde Edition also don’t count as it’s the same base car, just with a unique spec (what a DBS and the Corcorde have in common other than very dated electronics also escapes me).

So going back to the question of does McLaren have to many models, the total number of models is very much in line with what both Ferrari and Aston Martin have done in the same time period.  In fact, both Ferrari and Aston Martin have sold more models during that last decade than McLaren as I didn’t count models Ferrari & Aston launched prior to 2011 but sold in 2011 and thereafter.  Looking specifically at the “Special” models, its 10 for McLaren and 8 for Ferrari and 8 for Aston Martin.  Is this too many models? In my personal opinion yes, but that holds across the board.  This isn’t a new issue though and quite a few of us have given that feedback to all the manufacturers going back several years now.  In McLaren’s defense, I do know they have taken that feedback and there are no more Ultimate Series Limited Edition cars planned until 2025.

Going back to the video, the real issue for DeMuro isn’t the number of “Special” models but rather it seems to be the number of units produced of these “Special” models.  DeMuro seems to believe that it is mostly speculators that buy these cars to flip.  Too many “Special” cars therefore results in market saturation so there is little to no immediate value appreciation and the profit pool evaporates (scarcity and the need to have the “new new thing”, drives a lot of the initial value appreciation).  On part of this point, I have to agree, the hypercar market is overly saturated and has been so for quite so time (see: Hypercar Market Saturation: Too Much of a Good Thing).  There are simply too many manufacturers pushing too many cars to the same group of customers.  When you look at total production numbers though, its Ferrari who has been the worst offender as they have built more than twice as many “Special” models as McLaren. 

I do not concur that the majority of the buyers are speculators, most of the ones I know buy these cars to use, appreciate, and enjoy (see: Low Mileage Tyranny). Longer term, I do believe it’s in the best interests of the manufacturers to get these cars into the hands of true enthusiasts who are far more likely to remain long term loyal customers than speculators that are only in it to make a fast buck.  Ford got it mostly right with the two year lock down on customers selling there GTs, but Ford should also have added a 2,000 mileage minimum to make sure the cars also got used (Ford GT).  If actions like these drive the speculators out of the market, personally I would applaud it.  Cars should be used and enjoyed, not turned into high value commodities where lack of usage actually increases value.  If you want to speculate on cars, the stock market offers plenty of opportunities (Aston Martin – AML.L, Ferrari – RACE) does not require garage space or maintenance and has near instant liquidity.  It can also be a much better investment.  If you bought a LaFerrari new in 2015, you paid around $1.4 mil.  Based on the last couple of auctions, that LaFerrari is worth $2.2 mil.  If you bought $1.4 mil. worth of Ferrari shares at the IPO in 2015, those shares would be worth $5.7 mil. and unlike a LaFerrari, those shares definitely haven’t needed a battery replacement.

Summary

So, does McLaren make too many “Special” models?  Not if you look at it based on McLaren’s competitive set.  The total number of both all McLaren models and “Special” McLaren models built in the last decade is in line with both Ferrari and Aston Martin.  Looking just at production numbers though, McLaren has built less than half the number of units of “Special” cars in the last decade as Ferrari.  Where there is a very real issue though, it’s with the industry.  There are simply too many manufacturers today trying to sell too many units of $1 mil. plus cars.  This is what’s driving the market saturation.  If there is a silver lining in all this though, perhaps the market saturation will finally drive out the majority of the speculators and convince them to go back to buying stocks.

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12 Thoughts on Does McLaren Really Have Too Many Models?
    Robin
    17 Apr 2021
    8:29am

    Hi
    As usual an excellent article as was the previous one.
    My question is where will prices be when we have the next economic implosion?
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    Tim
    17 Apr 2021
    5:25am

    I agree, the number of McLaren models across the range seems about right. The problem is they are all too simiar. Mid engined V8; they’ve nailed it. Front engined V8? Front engine V12? Mid engine V12? No chance.

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    John
    16 Apr 2021
    10:42pm

    Doug DeMuro. Squeezing a 2 minute video in to 14 minutes and 20 seconds…

    The content vs time ratio is too low to watch his videos. I’ve watched another YouTuber, 4xoverland, and you can watch him at x2 speed (settings on the YouTube video screen) and not miss anything, and don’t worry you won’t as he will repeat everything at least three times!

    I’ve felt that the biggest offender of taking advantage of the million pound supercar buyer has been Aston Martin. With their Zagato editions it’s almost tradition that they do! Too many specials, and sometimes of products just launched that quickly dates their core lineup.

    McLaren I think got caught out with the Elva. It’s too much like a 720s roadster than an individual model by itself. Although it is better looking than the Aston Martin V12 Speeder, which is a Vantage roadster with the V12 fitted. Something that everybody must have known Aston would do – fit a V12 to the new Vantage. Elva dropped from 399, to 249 and I believe SSO predicted they’d struggle with those numbers, and you’re right as you report they’re down to 149 now. Aston don’t say, but reports are that 3/4 of the 88 are reserved. Let’s see if that carries through to completed sales.

    But, and here’s the big but, Ferrari. Their brand value is still so strong they’ve sold out their Monzas. Honestly, they’re fine looking cars, and they had no difficulty in finding buyers. This is the one that bucks the million pound supercar market.

    The speculators must have got burnt with the Senna, where prices initially rose to about £1.8 million and then quickly settled back to base. Some Astons seem to go up in value over time, inexplicably, One-77 seems one of those. And limited edition Ferraris do too, although it seems the likes of the Enzo have dropped back down a bit too. If you were a speculator this may be the time to buy as demand is low, but you’ll have to hold them for a decade.

    But McLarens are meant to be driven – go and drive them!

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    Sean Reynolds
    17 Apr 2021
    2:08pm

    Agree. My only comment is Mclaren actually made less 620R’s because of COVID than the stamped run of 350 at 225. The Lamborghini comparison on Maclife is apt as well, although I believe you left same out not being a Lambro. haha.

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    pfb
    17 Apr 2021
    2:45am

    The real issue IMHO is the model number confusion for those who don’t speak Mclaren…
    Some examples:
    A 600 LT and 620R are in the same part of the family tree (570S), but not closely related to the other ‘six hundred series’ car, the 650S.
    … two similar models of 570, differentiated by suffix (S, GT),
    …but other permutations of the 570 change the number (600, 620)
    …and that a ‘570 GT’ is different car than the ‘GT’ (wait, no number? ;-).
    …and a 600LT and 675LT are very different.

    Of course once you know them all it kinda, sorta makes sense, but it’s not quite as logical as most other marques.

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    Todd
    4 May 2021
    2:50am

    Excellent review Supercarowner! I can’t imagine any knowledgeable exotic car owners paying any attention to whatever demuro says. One video and I was done.

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    G
    8 Aug 2021
    5:51am

    In the list of Ferrari models, you’ve missed the f12, tdf, 812, Lusso, Lusso T etc.

    Great article as always

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